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The B&A international Classics Sunday July 27th,2008 Las Vegas NV.
Here is what the Athletes can win at our show:
Overall Men winner (comparison between novice,masters and open men)
wins a brand new car or $10000 USD as sponsorship paid in full and cash that night!
Overall Women winner (comparison novice,masters and open women) wins a brand
new car or $10000 USD as sponsorship paid in full and cash that night!
Overall Figure winner (comparison Figure over 35 and open Figure) wins a brand new car or
$10000 USD as sponsorship paid in full and cash that night!
All 1st place winner win a $1000 USD sponsorship paid in cash that night plus a Conan Sword!
Bikini Diva winner $1500 cash,if we have more than 40 entry s we will double the money!
Figure Physique 1st $1500 and 2nd $500 if we have more than 20 Athletes we will have 2
classes and the overall winner wins $10000 sponsorship paid in full and cash!
Special Trophy for best Poser and most ripped!
Arm wrestling men and women $800 total prize money
Top 6 get a Trophy
Every Athlete gets a Gym bag and a T Shirt and a participate Medal !
Free Party right after the show for Athletes and officials with free food and give aways
like Golds Gym T Shirts,Hats Lana's Egg Whites and Vitamins!
A brand new Motorcycle Cruiser give away at the Party to one lucky Athlete!!!
Casting 1 male and 1 female Athlete to have their own live TV Show in Los Angeles California!!!
(Not depending on placing only on looks and personality)
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
"The show for the Athletes"!!!
Ben
B&A Production
WOW!!! Sounds like a great show for sure!!
Changes!!!
The B&A International Classics now-
" THE B&A INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSE" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
There is a rumor that we have a chance that "the KING" shows up!!!!
Femphysiquefan
05-15-2008, 04:33 PM
I've heard other news about this show over on FB.com.......disturbing news. TTTG (the head administrator over at femininebodybuilding.com) posted this at the beginning of this year concerning this show:
"If you've already competed in an NPC show and are an NPC athlete, that declares you as an amatuer, if you compete (you don't even have to win, just compete) in this or any other non NPC sanctioned show it can cause you to lose this status and you will be unable to compete in any other NPC show. This was just confirmed with the NPC Head Office this morning. pm IslandGirl or I if you have any questions."
From IslandGirl:
"I'm quite surprised that not many people know this. I hope NPC athletes take notice of this and are aware of the repercussions. I also want everyone to know that it is not only with this show. Any bodybuilding, fitness and figure show that is a non-NPC sanctioned show.
The difference between an Amateur and a Pro.
As an amateur you cannot compete for cash and/or prizes. Prizes in that you can turn it in and sell for money. Regardless if you win, you will still lose your amateur status from the NPC because you opened yourself up to possibly winning money.
As a pro, you compete for money."
Again, from TTTG:
"IslandGirl and I have both contacted the NPC head office and they verified to both of us over the phone that if an NPC registered athlete competes in this show they will lose their NPC status if they find out. So if you choose to compete in this show be aware that it could mean the loss of your NPC card."
Just some more info so that everyone gets the whole story, and so that those who do choose to compete in this show are aware of the possible repercussions of doing so. :angel:
I've heard other news about this show over on FB.com.......disturbing news. TTTG (the head administrator over at femininebodybuilding.com) posted this at the beginning of this year concerning this show:
"If you've already competed in an NPC show and are an NPC athlete, that declares you as an amatuer, if you compete (you don't even have to win, just compete) in this or any other non NPC sanctioned show it can cause you to lose this status and you will be unable to compete in any other NPC show. This was just confirmed with the NPC Head Office this morning. pm IslandGirl or I if you have any questions."
From IslandGirl:
"I'm quite surprised that not many people know this. I hope NPC athletes take notice of this and are aware of the repercussions. I also want everyone to know that it is not only with this show. Any bodybuilding, fitness and figure show that is a non-NPC sanctioned show.
The difference between an Amateur and a Pro.
As an amateur you cannot compete for cash and/or prizes. Prizes in that you can turn it in and sell for money. Regardless if you win, you will still lose your amateur status from the NPC because you opened yourself up to possibly winning money.
As a pro, you compete for money."
Again, from TTTG:
"IslandGirl and I have both contacted the NPC head office and they verified to both of us over the phone that if an NPC registered athlete competes in this show they will lose their NPC status if they find out. So if you choose to compete in this show be aware that it could mean the loss of your NPC card."
Just some more info so that everyone gets the whole story, and so that those who do choose to compete in this show are aware of the possible repercussions of doing so. :angel:
How wrong can you be?
All BS,there was a lawsuit about this with the AAU against the NPC and the AAU won.Same here just talk and scare tactics.We ask for a letter and we never got one.There is nothing official out there what says that Amateurs can not compete in this show,why? Because the NPC who actually does not have a license in California by the way since 99 (Lawyers are working on that,big trouble is coming for the loved NPC) knows they will get sued again.It is all to scare people because the NPC is scared that we are going to change Bodybuilding and Figure for the better!!!
There was an official,statement/letter for IFBB Pros but who cares this is not a Pro show.
So let us change the Amateur Bodybuilding/Figure world and get finally something for your hard work!!!
BTW 99% of all Pros do not make any money!
Arnold knows what is good for you!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
As an amateur you cannot compete for cash and/or prizes. Prizes in that you can turn it in and sell for money. Regardless if you win, you will still lose your amateur status from the NPC because you opened yourself up to possibly winning money.
As a pro, you compete for money."
yeah and about that,ever heard about the loadedcup? www.loadedcup.dk
where IFBB Amateurs win 15000 Euro (about $22000 USD) cash and prizes for another 10000 Euro!
The Elite IFBB tour - Amateur IFBB Athletes compete for cash in different country's!!!
IFBB Amateurs compete for cash and money all over the world so you should make sure you know what is going on before making any statements like that!!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com - most rewarding Amateur show in history!!!!
Femphysiquefan
05-15-2008, 09:10 PM
How wrong can you be?
All BS,there was a lawsuit about this with the AAU against the NPC and the AAU won.
Would you mind proving this with credible evidence??
Same here just talk and scare tactics.We ask for a letter and we never got one.
Again, would you mind proving with evidence that you asked the NPC for a letter?
There is nothing official out there what says that Amateurs can not compete in this show,why? Because the NPC who actually does not have a license in California by the way since 99 (Lawyers are working on that,big trouble is coming for the loved NPC) knows they will get sued again.
Can you supply proof about your claims concerning the NPC's California license??
There was an official,statement/letter for IFBB Pros but who cares this is not a Pro show.
If other organizations like the IFBB pro league are instructing their athletes to steer clear of your show, why then is it automatically "talk and scare tactics" when it comes to the NPC?? The fact that the IFBB took this step in my mind seems to lend credibility to the claims put out on other boards by NPC officials concerning participation in your show.
Femphysiquefan
05-15-2008, 10:01 PM
yeah and about that,ever heard about the loadedcup? www.loadedcup.dk
where IFBB Amateurs win 15000 Euro (about $22000 USD) cash and prizes for another 10000 Euro!
The Elite IFBB tour - Amateur IFBB Athletes compete for cash in different country's!!!
IFBB Amateurs compete for cash and money all over the world so you should make sure you know what is going on before making any statements like that!!!
Sorry, but your example of the IFBB amateur league is irrelevant. This is concerning the NPC, an AMERICAN organization separate from the IFBB amateur league and thus governed by its own rules and policies. Here is what I am seeing from posts on other boards put out by head officials at the NPC: if any NPC athlete chooses to compete at this show and the NPC finds out about it, that athlete will lose their NPC card and will be unable to compete in any more NPC events. In short, that athlete's amateur career with the NPC will be over. For evidence of this, see the following thread from Muscle Mayhem's forum board:
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51660&pp=20&page=5
Whether the NPC's stated course of action is legal or not, I do not know, but this IS what the NPC has been saying concerning this event, and EVERY female NPC athlete here at siouxcountry.com deserves to be told this information. I HAVE been keeping up with what's going on, Ben. I've seen you spamming this show on every forum board out there for months now. I've seen you spouting off with ad hominems against anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, such as the time you called Chad Nicholls a "no-name NPC chairman" on his OWN BOARD, as the thread above will show. I also know that you've KNOWN this information about the NPC and your contest for MONTHS now, as the above thread will show. It is therefore interesting that you have not bothered in a single post on THIS thread on Sioux's board to bring this information to light for the ladies at SC.com. You claim to care about the athletes: does it really reflect care for the athletes to willingly withhold information that very well may jeopardize the careers of several promising amateur athetes on this board?? I don't think so. EVERY lady that competes in NPC has the right to this information so that they can make a truly informed decision as to how to proceed, and the NPC ladies on Siouxcountry's board are certainly no exception.
everybody knows about the lawsuit AAU against NPC please you as a NPC lover should know that,
there will be no letter because of the lawsuit,don't you think they would have done that many month ago,when the letter came out for the Pros? come on,i asked,i let other asked for me.............nothing,think about it?!
here for you:
Corporation
NATIONAL PHYSIQUE COMMITTEE OF THE USA, INC.
Number: C2171502 Date Filed: 7/20/1999 Status: surrender
Jurisdiction: OHIO
Address
PO BOX 3711
PITTSBURGH, PA 15222
Agent for Service of Process
CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY WHICH WILL DO BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA AS CSC - LAWYERS INCORPORATING SERVICE
2730 GATEWAY OAKS DR STE 100
SACRAMENTO, CA 95833
IFBB Amateurs and NPC Athletes have the same rules,it can not be that one Amateur Organization punish their Athletes for competing for money and the other put on shows so that Amateurs can make money.It is either you are allowed to take money as an Amateur or not and the IFBB Amateurs are allowed to.
What you saying is that if an NPC Athletes competes in the Elite series or any other IFBB Amateur competition where he gets money that he looses his Amateur status in the NPC?
Think about it!!
makes no sense,again lawsuits would follow and NPC would loose again!
...........and one last think my friend from October till January the NPC was fine with our Event,I have many witnesses for that.When I stated that NPC Athletes could compete at our show without any problems,they flipped and said I was a lier.
If Athletes want to get hold hostages from an Organization where 99% of all Athletes who turn Pro never make any money,than so be it and nobody can help them.
All our Athletes on the Poster got blackmailed from your loved NPC/IFBB Organization.My sponsors got blackmailed by this great Organization to and 2 dropped out because of that.Posters get stolen on a weekly basis.I got death threads yesterday....................I really think it is time to change Bodybuilding and Figure for the better.
July 27th will be the first step...........................let's do this step together so we can grow
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com most rewarding Amateur show in history!!!
Siouxcountry
05-16-2008, 06:41 AM
If you are an NPC competitor, and you compete in Ben's show, you may lose your NPC card.
I want Ben's show to do well, but I don't want any NPC competitor to lose their card.
If you are an NPC competitor, and you compete in Ben's show, you may lose your NPC card.
I want Ben's show to do well, but I don't want any NPC competitor to lose their card.
You are my Friend Sioux,so I am a little confused that you saying that,because you are a man of facts.
Like i said before there is no official letter for that why?
Simple it is called "monopolize" the NPC tried this with the AAU,got sued and lost big time.You can not forbid as an Amateur (Amateur not Pros who have contracts)Organization your Athletes to compete somewhere else.
Show me the letter!!!
There is none,just scare tactics.
Ben
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
ParadiseCup
05-16-2008, 01:38 PM
You are my Friend Sioux,so I am a little confused that you saying that,because you are a man of facts.
Like i said before there is no official letter for that why?
Simple it is called "monopolize" the NPC tried this with the AAU,got sued and lost big time.You can not forbid as an Amateur (Amateur not Pros who have contracts)Organization your Athletes to compete somewhere else.
Show me the letter!!!
There is none,just scare tactics.
Ben
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.comnobody is forbiden to compete anywhere. The NPC does have Rules and Regulations. In an effort to eliminate confusion among NPC fitness competitors concerning their amateur status, the NPC Fitness Division will follow the bodybuilding division rules for status as an amateur;
A.) Once a fitness athlete competes in an NPC sanctioned fitness contest, you have declared yourself an amateur. If you then go and compete in another fitness contest for cash or cash prizes (i.e. car, vacations trips, etc.) you are no longer considered an amateur by the NPC. But that does not make you a professional in the IFBB either. This must be done by qualifying through our NPC sanctioned fitness contests.
http://npcnewsonline.com/new/npcrules_fitness.htm
sorry but I have to bring that up because it it just to good to be true!
Bob Chick IFBB Athletes Rep just stated on the Musclemayhem forum that
we the B&A forged the letter of Arnold Schwarzenegger Governor of California!
This would be a big big felony Bob!!
This is the Athletes Rep of the IFBB and that is all what he can come up with to talk about our competition,how low can you go Bob,how low????
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!
ParadiseCup
05-16-2008, 02:42 PM
Ben, you are a superstar and everyone is scared of you and your show !
Siouxcountry
05-16-2008, 04:27 PM
You are my Friend Sioux,so I am a little confused that you saying that,because you are a man of facts.
Like i said before there is no official letter for that why?
Simple it is called "monopolize" the NPC tried this with the AAU,got sued and lost big time.You can not forbid as an Amateur (Amateur not Pros who have contracts)Organization your Athletes to compete somewhere else.
Show me the letter!!!
There is none,just scare tactics.
Ben
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com (http://www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com)
You say they are using scare tactics, but what if they are not?
You say they are using scare tactics, but what if they are not?
Hello my friend,
it is just talk,they know if the would send out a letter that they will be sued like they have been sued by the AAu years ago and they lost.It is called"monopolize" and you can not do that.The only weapon they have is talk.They can forbid their Pros to be involved in our show and they did so in a public letter.They can not do this with Amateurs because they have no contracts and it is illegal!
your friend
Ben
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
Femphysiquefan
05-16-2008, 07:05 PM
sorry but I have to bring that up because it it just to good to be true!
Bob Chick IFBB Athletes Rep just stated on the Musclemayhem forum that
we the B&A forged the letter of Arnold Schwarzenegger Governor of California!
This would be a big big felony Bob!!
This is the Athletes Rep of the IFBB and that is all what he can come up with to talk about our competition,how low can you go Bob,how low????
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!
OK, if it ISN'T a fake, then please explain to all of us why this supposed letter from the Governator is dated July 27, 2008, and it's not even JUNE yet (see post #5 in this thread for the letter he is referring to)?? Perhaps you might want to call your lawyers, or at least head to the nearest non-extradition country?? :angel:
OK, if it ISN'T a fake, then please explain to all of us why this supposed letter from the Governator is dated July 27, 2008, and it's not even JUNE yet (see post #5 in this thread for the letter he is referring to)?? Perhaps you might want to call your lawyers, or at least head to the nearest non-extradition country?? :angel:
you are as crazy as Bob,there is a phone# on to the Governors office,you booth are really stupid.Is that all you can come up with???
I am giving you a warning,if you and Bob will not stop spreading false rumors about the letter from the Governor,I will take you to court.
Forging a letter from the Governor is a serious felony!!!!
Ben
My assumption would be that it is dated for July 27, 2008 because it is to be read the day of the show? Since if you look at the last bit, Arnolds last sentence is "Good luck to TODAY's competitors..."
My assumption would be that it is dated for July 27, 2008 because it is to be read the day of the show? Since if you look at the last bit, Arnolds last sentence is "Good luck to TODAY's competitors..."
Finally someone with intelligence here,
you are right Lady.
Finally someone with intelligence here,
you are right Lady.
Thank you Ben :)
Femphysiquefan
05-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Well, I've officially had enough of this malarky. If any athlete from the NPC wants to go and compete at a show that to me stinks to high heaven of being a scam, fine. ParadiseCup and myself have simply tried to get the word out to NPC athletes as to what the NPC is saying about this show, and we've done our job. If we turn out to be wrong in what we've been saying, I'll be the first to admit it and apologize to you right here on this thread, Ben: I try as hard as I can to be egoless, and as such am not afraid to admit when I've been dead wrong about something. However, I personally would rather err on the side of caution and tell what I know, rather than keep information to myself that just might save the amateur careers of several promising NPC athletes on this board. However, if we turn out to be right in what we've been saying, I hope that no NPC athletes here at SC.com that have read this thread and compete at this show will be surprised if the NPC gives them a call and asks for their card back, and they CERTAINLY shouldn't go around saying that they weren't warned. Everything I have done here, I have done for the good of the ladies here at SC.com; ladies that I have the utmost respect and admiration for, and that I would do everything in my limited power to protect from possibly jeopardizing their careers. Hope that everyone is doing well in life and training, and I hope to see many of you at a show sometime in the future!!
like I said before,there is no and there will no official letter what says so.
Simple like that.The NPC would loose a lawsuit and they know.So compete make some money and if they do anything,sue and make more money.
There are countless examples of Athletes who competed in other Organizations for money and came back.
This show is to appreciate the Athletes for their hard work and nothing else.
It is time to change Bodybuilding/Figure for the better.
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com most rewarding show in Amateur history!
ParadiseCup
05-19-2008, 03:46 PM
This show is to appreciate the Athletes for their hard work and nothing else.
well what about you Ben? this can put you on the map as someone other than a spammer. You can be the hero for saving all the athletes !! People are now gonna know who you are.
Each one of these silver plated ones (men - women - figure) come wit a new car or a $10000 pay check that night!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
8 weeks this Sunday!!!
Let's change Amateur Bodybuilding/Figure for the better!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
6 weeks this Sunday!!!!
There has never been an Amateur show in the history of our sport in the whole World with more prizes than the B&A International Universe!!!
Sunday July 27th - history in the making!!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
we have now 4 weight classes for mens Bodybuilding!
5 weeks today!!!!
www.internationalclassicslasvegas.com
MsGuns
06-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Show looks interesting...
If I could afford it...I would be there...
Show looks interesting...
If I could afford it...I would be there...
You would be very welcome!!!
Ladies and gentleman,
only 4 1/2 weeks left until we make Amateur history!!!! You can talk all the trash in the World but you can not take that away from us!!
B&A INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSE MOST REWARDING AMATEUR SHOW IN HISTORY !
BTW:
Don't be fooled by a certain Organization,no Organization will be loyal to you or cares about you.
Take a chance - TV - Magazine- Radio - Cars- Cash prizes - Motorcycle-Gifts- think about yourself,
99% of all Pros never make any money with Bodybuilding,here we are for the amateur Athletes!!
Take a chance!
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