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Siouxcountry
02-17-2008, 09:42 PM
On other sites, and boards I have read it is not possible to gain fat if one eats only protein, and fat.
I have gone weeks eating only protein, and fat, and did not gain any fat, BUT my calories were not high.
I have never done the above eating +2500 calories a day (it's expensive).
What are your thoughts? Do you believe if one eats +4000 calories a day (only protein & fat) one will not gain fat?
Ever done the above? If so, results?
4000!?! I can't even seem to break the 2000 barrier, especially on protein and fats alone :( I think if you are still working out and burning calories and fat that your body will store as little as possible as fat and that the excess calories would first go to your muscle building?!
Shelly
02-17-2008, 10:12 PM
hmmm. good q. I never fully have cut our carbs...nor tried to eat 4000+ calories either!!! i would be eating every hour LOL
are we assuming that a normal workout routine is in place??
Hey ya pal...
Would you like me to edit the spelling of question on your post, or is that how the cool kids are spelling it nowadays :)
Siouxcountry
02-17-2008, 10:28 PM
hmmm. good q. I never fully have cut our carbs...nor tried to eat 4000+ calories either!!! i would be eating every hour LOL
are we assuming that a normal workout routine is in place??
Normal workout, no cardio.
I know I would be fat within two weeks if I ate a normal 4000 calories a day. :D
Siouxcountry
02-17-2008, 10:29 PM
Hey ya pal...
Would you like me to edit the spelling of question on your post, or is that how the cool kids are spelling it nowadays :)
What are you talking about?
I swear SBT is :nuts:
What are you talking about?
I swear SBT is :nuts:
:angel: :kiss:
Welllll that is the smiley you were gonna name after me if I remember right?!?!
Siouxcountry
02-17-2008, 10:46 PM
:angel: :kiss:
Welllll that is the smiley you were gonna name after me if I remember right?!?!
Lol that is right. :D
Quadrablue
02-17-2008, 10:57 PM
I think it depends on the person. I've read that too much protein can actually stall the fat loss process. Even with training and cardio you might find that 4000 cals is just far too much for your body to deal with. So many people get stuck on how other people are doing things. There is a lot of trial and error in this sport. That's why we do all our experimenting in the offseason! Trust what your body tells you not what you read is working for so and so. MO anyway.
On other sites, and boards I have read it is not possible to gain fat if one eats only protein, and fat.
I have gone weeks eating only protein, and fat, and did not gain any fat, BUT my calories were not high.
I have never done the above eating +2500 calories a day (it's expensive).
What are your thoughts? Do you believe if one eats +4000 calories a day (only protein & fat) one will not gain fat?
Ever done the above? If so, results?
4000 calories? WOW. I think that the best way to address this is to refer to portion control and portion sizes which are both necessary for fat loss in ANY diet. Over eating is over eating whether its grilled chicken or potatos. The human body only needs so much....and of course what you need in particular is dependent on your activity level, your body's unique caloric needs, and your genetic makeup.
Erin Riley, Ali Huston, and myself had a thread in FigureRX which I think its appropriate to link up here. It's on dieting and different diets methods : http://www.figurerx.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=405&sid=a8b6583c4074f0de983286a64f760979
dvsness
02-19-2008, 05:02 PM
If you are in caloric excess, you will gain. In caloric deficit, you will lose. Yes, the macronutrient breakdown of your consumption will have an effect on what kind of gains or losses you have, but at the end of the day it's clas in over cals out. Also, if you have a large amount of protein without carbs or fat as your diet, your body can convert it into glucose (glucogenesis).
ripitupbaby
02-19-2008, 06:47 PM
If you are in caloric excess, you will gain. In caloric deficit, you will lose. Yes, the macronutrient breakdown of your consumption will have an effect on what kind of gains or losses you have, but at the end of the day it's clas in over cals out. Also, if you have a large amount of protein without carbs or fat as your diet, your body can convert it into glucose (glucogenesis).
Exactly. Keep it simple...calories in and calories out. :)
IslandGirl
02-19-2008, 06:54 PM
On other sites, and boards I have read it is not possible to gain fat if one eats only protein, and fat.
I have gone weeks eating only protein, and fat, and did not gain any fat, BUT my calories were not high.
I have never done the above eating +2500 calories a day (it's expensive).
What are your thoughts? Do you believe if one eats +4000 calories a day (only protein & fat) one will not gain fat?
Ever done the above? If so, results?
If you are in caloric excess, you will gain. In caloric deficit, you will lose. Yes, the macronutrient breakdown of your consumption will have an effect on what kind of gains or losses you have, but at the end of the day it's clas in over cals out. Also, if you have a large amount of protein without carbs or fat as your diet, your body can convert it into glucose (glucogenesis).
I agree with Vanessa.
But also, it all depends on the individual. Someone with a freaky metabolism can get away with not gaining an ounce of fat.
gymdiva
02-19-2008, 07:00 PM
carbs for me do help in speeding up the fat retaining process HOWEVER it also makes me hold more water...when I carb cycled with Cam and Tracy for jrs I of course was losing since cals were played with and restricted and I was doing more than I ate...but the week of when they took all carbs away and I did nothing but chicken let me tell you, the water FLEW off of me! I was so shocked when I was not only in my skinny jeans, but in them with room to spare! and then I made weighins without dropping water...that made me super happy!
I seem to function better without many carbs...but that goes back to a blood sugar thing...and that's so individual for each person...if you find you function better without them them go without...now if you're looking to gain size then I call them the necessary evil...
but fat can be gained regardless of what you eat...b/c if you're not doing anything then it's gonna pile on!
If you are in caloric excess, you will gain. In caloric deficit, you will lose. Yes, the macronutrient breakdown of your consumption will have an effect on what kind of gains or losses you have, but at the end of the day it's clas in over cals out. Also, if you have a large amount of protein without carbs or fat as your diet, your body can convert it into glucose (glucogenesis).
Nicely said ;)
All I know is if you find out it works..sign me up. :waving:
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